Saturday, March 31, 2012
Sunday, January 29, 2012
February Gathering
Wednesday, January 11, 2012
Thanks for today!
Wednesday, November 2, 2011
November Gathering
We are planning another gathering on November 16th at noon. We will be meeting again at Tierra Coffee in Coralville. I recommend the grapefruit thingy I had last time. Yum!Saturday, September 17, 2011
We are planning another gathering on October 12th at noon. We have new digs since our last hang out closed. The new place is called Tierra Coffee in Coralville. I think you will like it and it is still a central location (although, I can no longer just walk across the parking lot :).Tuesday, August 23, 2011
September Gathering
We are planning another gathering in September. This time I have invited everyone to my house in Kalona. We plan to meet Monday evening September 12th at 5:30 p.m. Let's make it a potluck and everyone bring something to share. I will have the grill fired up if you would like to bring some type of meat. Our regular meeting place has closed, but we hope to meet in October at Capanna's new place just a few minutes north on 965 in North Liberty.September 12th we plan to discuss Tony Jones' new e-book The Church is Flat: The Relational Ecclesiology of the Emerging Church Movement. This is his Ph.D. dissertation, so buckle up. Tony has agreed to join us by video conference. We are going to try and do the Google+ "hang out" group video chat. If you can't come to the gathering, but would like to join in from where ever you are search for me on goggle+ and add me to one of your circles. I will add you and make sure you know about the "hang out". If you are new to google+, email me and I will send you an invite and some info.
Monday, August 15, 2011
Cohort Meeting Wednesday!
This Wednesday, August 17th we will be gathering again for good coffee (fair trade of course), good conversation and good people. We will meet in the usual spot at the usual time. We plan to discuss Shane Claiborne's book, The Irresistible Revolution. I have to be honest, this guy is the real deal. Many of you remember we have had authors join us over Skype to discuss their books with us. I didn't even try to get him to join us this time. I would be too ashamed of my conspicuous consumption. The Holy Spirit really has been speaking to me through this guy. I'll be interested how some others reacted to this book.I found an interesting article he wrote for Esquire some time back that is making a comeback on many blogs recently. What is so interesting to me is how it seems to allude to Rob Bell's book Love Wins. The problem is that it was written in 2009. I wondered if Rob got some of his ideas from Shane...
I'm also eager to hear more from Deb about The Wild Goose Festival. She wrote in her blog that she first got the idea from Brian McLaren in one of our cohort Skype conversations. How cool is that? Hope to see you Wednesday :) Lon
Saturday, July 9, 2011
"You're Doing It Wrong"
In Jesus Wants to Save Christians, essentially Bell calls out every American Christian and says "how could someone on the right side of the most powerful empire the world has ever known be able to understand, much less take correct action in accordance with a story told from the perspective of a people under the boot of the empire." He says loud and clear, "You're doing it wrong" and then gives lots of examples of how to do it right. It is a book about orthopraxy (correct action). Love Wins, on the other hand, is a book about orthodoxy (correct belief).
I've had some time to think about this and I have a working theory. There seem to be lots of folks that think you have to say the right things, regardless of what you do. If you can recite the creed, or the statement of faith from your tribe, you're in. If you don't, "stay out". It's that simple. Say the right things and we will give you the key to the city. One person recently told me this was his experience of the ordination process. He said, "You have to take a set of approved classes and fill out a document with particularly worded questions about right beliefs. You set before a committee and are questioned further. Very little is discussed in regards to the fruit (or doing) in one's life". The ironic thing is that Jesus said to people, "come, follow me and find out what real life is about." They didn't have to pass a litmus test before joining. For more on this, try googling the terms "bounded set" and "centered set".Now don't misunderstand. Beliefs are important. They inform how we act. We need both; a balance of orthodoxy and orthopraxy. It just struck me odd there was so much controversy over something that when you read it, there's nothing that is too outlandish. Now mind you, the publisher not sending out pre-release copies of the book and putting out that provocative video didn't help matters. Some Christians are pretty dependable to do stupid stuff when they get worked up. It's just that Jesus Wants to Save Christians seems much more provocative. I'll be curious to get other's ideas on this. Otherwise, Wednesday we will try to discern what it means to faithfully follow Jesus. Hope to see you there.
Wednesday, June 29, 2011
Next Meeting July 13!
Sunday, June 12, 2011
Meeting Wednesday June 15 from 12-2!
Tuesday, May 31, 2011
The Way, the Truth, and the Life
Sermon on May 22
I don’t know how many of you may have seen news reports of the latest flap circulating in evangelical circles these days. Now, I don’t mean the obvious fact that Jesus did not return in glory yesterday – no mature Christian, Catholic or Protestant takes these kinds of “predictions” seriously.
No, this has to do with a new book written by Rob Bell, the young pastor of a huge mega-church in Grandville, Michigan, called the “Mars Hill Bible Church.” Rob is the founder and producer of the “Nooma” film series we have been using for the last several years as part of our Adult Education offerings on some Sunday mornings.
His new book is entitled “Love Wins: A Book about Heaven, Hell, and the Fate of Every Person Who Ever Lived.” Not a very modest title, which may be one reason that the book has caused such an uproar in some circles. He has been accused by some of denying the existence of hell and of being a “Universalist” – that is, one who believes that everyone will eventually make it to heaven. He has denied both accusations and staunchly defends his book as not denying the reality of hell, but questioning some of his fellow-evangelicals’ certainty that they know just exactly who is going to hell and who is not!
In one exchange, he argues with a fellow pastor who claimed that Gandhi was certainly in hell. Rob replied, “Gandhi in hell? Really? We have confirmation of this? Without a doubt?”
Of course, those who claim that only Christians -- or even only born-again Christians – will make it into heaven often quote the very passage we have from John’s Gospel this morning: in response to Thomas’ question about how they can know “the way” to where Jesus is going, he replies, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.” (John 14:6)
The first part of that citation is Jesus’ primary point and he goes on in the rest of our Reading today to elaborate on what it means to say that he is the way, the truth, and the life. Jesus is the way to God because, as he says, “Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, “Show us the Father?” (John 14:9)
The point here is that the fact of the Incarnation means that Jesus is the “human face of God.” God is really quite beyond anything we can touch or feel or see or even comprehend fully. But the Christian claim is that all we NEED to know about God can be discovered in Jesus. When we look at Jesus, we know what God is like! Does that exhaust everything about the nature of God? Probably not. But, again, all we NEED to know about God, we believe we have found in Jesus Christ. He is “the way” for us.
Next, we are told that Jesus is “the Truth.” And John’s Gospel goes on to quote him as saying “The words that I say to you I do not speak on my own; but the Father who dwells in me does his works.” (John 14:10) So, when Jesus teaches, he is not just teaching on his own, he is conveying “the truths” he learned from his Father.” Jesus is speaking the truth about God because God is speaking though him.
And finally, we hear that Jesus is “the Life.” Well, I don’t know anyone – Christian or non-Christian – who does not believe that Jesus lived an exemplary life and that if more people lived more like Jesus, this would be a considerably finer world. Or, as Jesus puts it in today’s Gospel, “Believe me that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; but if you do not, then believe me because of the works themselves. Very truly I tell you, the one who believes in me will also do the works that I do…” (John 14:11-12) We are to live life like Jesus!
So, we believe that Jesus shows us the way to God…teaches us the truth about God…and exemplifies for us the kind of life God would have us live. He is, therefore, the way…the truth…and the life! But does that mean that only Christians will get to heaven? And, if so, what kind of Christians? Practicing Christians? What about non-practicing Christians?
Catholic Christians? What about Protestant Christians? Conservative Christians? What about Liberal Christians?
Yet, John’s Gospel does quote Jesus as saying: “No one comes to the Father except through me.” What does he mean by that? Well, Peter Marty (our colleague up the street at St. Paul Lutheran) puts it this way in a recent review of Rob Bell’s book in The Christian Century magazine: “the glue holding Bell’s project together is the firm conviction that Jesus is bigger than any one religion. He is the cosmic Christ who will not be co-opted or owned by any one culture. He is supra-cultural.”
“The apostle Paul wrote, ‘In Jesus, God was reconciling the world to himself’ and Bell is not willing to say that what Paul really meant was a reconciliation of the Christian world. Similarly Bell thinks that when Jesus announced that “God so loved the world…’ he actually meant the world. Had John been interested in shrinking the gospel or lessening the scope of the cross, he might well have proposed that ‘God so loved only Christians.’ But John did not.” (May 17 Christian Century, page 25)
No, John did not propose that…but sometimes Christians seem to wish that he had! Some of this debate is new to evangelical Christians, and that’s why Rob Bell has been so roundly criticized by some of his fellows. It’s not a new debate to Catholic, Orthodox, or Anglican theologians. Roman Catholics believe in Purgatory which may allow a way for former unbelievers yet to be recipients of the gift of heaven.
Orthodox and Anglicans often speak of an “intermediate state” called Paradise where we will continue to grow in grace after death while we await the final judgment, and where those who have never heard the word of Christ or who have had it so poorly presented that they rejected it, likewise may have the opportunity to be introduced to Jesus and walk through that “door of the sheepfold” into eternal life with God.
I remember my professor of systematic theology at Seabury-Western once saying “We absolutely must posit the existence of hell…because God will not force anyone to spend eternity with Him who doesn’t want to. BUT,” he continued with a smile, “ if you and I do our jobs, it is not necessary to posit that anyone will actually end up there…finally!”
Well, to be honest, I expect there actually will be those who choose to turn their backs on God once and for all. There are some people who seem actually that self-centered. But let us not join those who criticize people like Rob Bell who at least hold out the hope that, in the final analysis, Love does indeed “win.”
And that those who – knowingly or unknowingly – follow the way, the truth, and the life of Jesus will one day see him face-to-face and (like us) will receive the Gift that neither they, nor we, deserve.
The Gift of Eternal Life!
(Chris Epting)
Tuesday, April 26, 2011
Next meeting?
Friday, March 11, 2011
Next Cohort Meeting with Brian McLaren
We had a great time on Ash Wednesday talking about N.T. Wright's book, After You Believe, as well as the Brian McLaren workshop recently in Iowa City. I spoke with Brian at the workshop and he has graciously agreed to join us at the next cohort meeting via Skype to discuss his book Naked Spirituality. We will try again to stream the meeting on USTREAM, so if you can't be with us in person, join us virtually. As always, feel free to leave comments and make unique posts (let me know if you want to become a poster for the blog). Thanks for putting up with my personal posts from time to time. My hope is that all of our personal stories can fit into the larger mosaic of the cohort story and God's story.So, we will meet again on April 13th from 12:00 p.m. to 2:00 p.m. at Fusion coffee in Coralville. Hope to see you there!
Wednesday, February 23, 2011
Why I like the Mennonites, Part 2: Warts and All
I made reference to Brian McLaren's book, A Generous Orthodoxy in part-one of my Mennonite musings. His suggestion is that we take the best from all traditions; that each heritage has something to offer, and like the body of Christ, we all need each other. Greg Boyd believes the Mennonites have something valuable to offer the Church, and I agree with him. He says quite eloquently,
"Cherish Your Treasure! Not in a prideful way, of course, but simply as a precious gift God has given you and that God wants to give the world through you. Be daringly flexible on all matters that aren’t central to the Kingdom (e.g. worship styles, dress, etc.), but be utterly uncompromising on all matters that are central to the Kingdom (viz. everything that pertains to living a Jesus-looking life). My Mennonite sisters and brothers, you have what multitudes in the rising Kingdom movement are longing for. You can provide a home to so many who right now are looking for one. If you hold fast to the faith you’ve been entrusted with (Jude 3), you may just find your fellowship exploding in the years to come. For, I believe, the Anabaptist vision of the Kingdom is a vision whose time has come."I have found the welcoming Mennonite fellowship I have been attending these past few months to be just that. I still feel like I've come home. Recently, I was invited by the Mission and Service committee to join them on a trip to St. Paul, Minnesota to visit Third Way. I spoke about this new church in my last post. They are an intentional community of Jesus followers that have sought out the Mennonite denomination and asked to join as a participating community of faith, adhering to the Central Plains Mennonite conference confession of faith. What is so amazing to me is how an established, traditional church has been willing to listen and learn from a group so different from them. I just soaked in the experience. It was a torrential rain in the desert of my soul.
Like I said before, Mennonites are good at listening. I've seen this first hand and heard some stories told about intractable situations in the past that were negotiated with patience and prayer to the point of resolution. The local congregation I attend has lasted for nearly 114 years without splintering. Amazing as that sounds, I'm guessing some of their toughest days are ahead. There are at least two possible reasons for this: One, at the same time many are discovering the treasure of the Anabaptist heritage, many Mennonites are letting their distinct theological perspective be diluted by American evangelicalism, or co-opted by politics either to the right or the left. This is not the first time a leavening of a Spirit-filled movement has affected a potent work of God. In the 1920's there was great fear about the influence of "modernism" in the Church. Out of that fear grew the evangelical movement which many would say has led to phenomena like the "religious right" and alignment of church and government. And though some might think those are good things, the net loss was the distinctiveness of some spiritual movements in a joining with a generalized evangelicalism largely undergirded by fundamentalist reformed theology. Now that the Church is firmly rooted in modernism, the same kind of fear of "post-modernism" is affecting a portion of Mennonites to mix the Kingdom of God with nationalism, and even soften their long held stance on violence.
A second concern, and seemingly more troubling for Mennonites is the issue that many denominations are in dispute over at this moment: sexuality. This has come up for the Central Plains Mennonite Conference in specific ways over the last 15-20 years. What interests me most is how it has been handled more that what resulted. Remember, the Mennonites have this tradition of slow deliberation. All voices are invited into the dialogue. Much prayer is undertaken. Unity is of prime concern. Community discernment is the process. Trust in the Holy Spirit as guide. These tried and true tools have been employed for five hundred years with effectiveness. Surprisingly, with this divisive topic, all seem abandoned. As I understand it, as often as there has been a conflict regarding sexuality, there has been haste to make a decision.

The Central Plains Conference is facing this problem again. My hope is that fear is not the guiding force in these proceedings. That those involved will not forget where they come from. That Jesus' example of a Third Way will prevail and the long held confession of Discipleship into Faithfulness will hold sway. If you haven't guessed, I'm an optimist. I think we can do it. We can get through this one like we have gotten through martyrdom, harassment during wartime, listening to the radio, women in leadership. All of the tools are there. It's been done before. God help us.
Friday, February 11, 2011
Next Cohort Meeting
Our next meeting will be the second Wednesday of March (which happens to be Ash Wednesday). It is March 9th from 12-2 p.m. at Fusion Coffee in Coralville. We had 10 people in attendance as we squeezed around the table for a wonderful time of community and faith stories. That is the most yet and it is very encouraging the support and dialogue that is happening among such a diverse group.
Our next meeting we will be discussing N.T. Wright's book, After You Believe. Pick it up and join in the conversation. You can also find more articles, audio and video from Wright here. We look forward to seeing you at the cohort meeting.
Monday, January 31, 2011
Brian McLaren in Iowa City
FOLLOWING JESUS in the 21ST CENTURY
A talk by BRIAN McLAREN
7:00 p.m. Friday, March 4, 2011
Cost: FREE
TRANSFORMING CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY in the 21ST CENTURY
with BRIAN McLAREN
ECUMENICAL WORKSHOP FOR LAY LEADERS AND CLERGY
9:00 a.m. – 1:00 p.m., Saturday, March 5, 2011
Registration and Coffee at 8:30
Cost: $15
Location of Events: Zion Lutheran Church, 310 N. Johnson, Iowa City, IA
Free Parking: Ramp Across the Street
More info: Dorothy Whiston, 321-7920, dwhiston@mchsi.com
Registration Form
Thursday, January 20, 2011
Next Cohort Meeting with Phyllis Tickle
Monday, December 13, 2010
Advent Blog Tour
We are already halfway through this journey - but the good people responsible for the Common English Bible translation have been sponsoring a blog tour. Each day from December 1 - December 25, a piece of the Advent/Christmas story is shared and an assigned blogger shares a reflection. Friday, December 3, 2010
Next Cohort Meet-Up Set
We had a great meeting last Wednesday. I enjoyed getting together with Chris, Katie, and Jim. We talked about Doug Pagitt's book, Church in the Inventive Age. I think we all would recommend it. It's a good read and is short.We set out next meeting for January 12, 2011 at 12:00 p.m. Again, we will meet in Coralville at Fusion coffee shop. This time we plan to discuss Carol Howard Merritt's book, Reframing Hope! It looks like a compelling book. She is also the host of a podcast I listen to often, God Complex Radio. Looking forward to meeting again. We welcome your input here on this blog.
Wednesday, November 3, 2010
EVTC #4
Next and final session will be a "where do we go from here" discussion about which I will post later.






